No Two ways to deal with Canada and terrorists (Augmented)

[Justin Trudeau courting Sikh constituents]

Michael Rubin of the American Enterprise Institute in Washington has suggested something that’s never occurred to us Indians and even less to the Indian government — to lead the charge on branding Canada as “State Sponsor of Terrorism”. It would have devastating consequences for that country if the Financial Action Task Force follows up with sanctioning Ottawa. For years, New Delhi has focussed obsessively on Pakistan, leaving the equally dangerous source of international (Sikh) terrorism — Canada — free to continue stoking a cause that long ago became extinct in Punjab. The Modi government should now take up this task as top foreign policy priority, and on a war footing.

The blowing up of Air India plane Kanishka — flight AI-82 on June 23, 1985, over the North Atlantic Ocean killing 329 passengers and crew is the biggest aviation terrorism incident to-date. It took the Canadian government, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (main police agency), and intel agency over 20 years to investigate and take the perpetrators to court, and then did not have enough evidence to convict the two men accused in the conspiracy, Ripudaman Singh Malik and Ajaib Singh Bagri, who got away scott free, and Inderjit Singh Reyat who put together the explosive device, served some jail time. The shoddy police work, no doubt overseen by Liberal Party ministers, is one thing. But that terrorist outrage should have prompted the Indian government to seek international condemnation of Canada as state sponsor of terrorism, and take it to the FATF. Now that the two countries have vacated their respective high commissions of senior diplomats, it is time Modi ordered the MEA to go hammer and tongs in a campaign to villify and isolate Canada as a promoter of terrorism.

The more the Liberal Party government’s popularity has eroded in Canada, the more strongly its leader and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has sought to strengthen his support among the burgeoning Sikh immigrant community settled in large discrete pockets (around Toronto in the east and Vancouver in the west) — a policy initiated by his father and also PM, Pierre Trudeau — yea, dynastic politics is live and well in Canada as well!! — of affording Sikhs virtually free access to the country and encouraging the Khalistan cause.

Indeed, the Liberal Party in Canada has been the analog of the Congress Party in Assam where it helped enlarge its voter base by unscrupulous means — allowing Bangladeshis streaming illegally into the state across a porous border and immediately legitimizing their electoral clout by handing out voter cards, ration cards and other state and national identity documents. Such means helped Congress to rule Assam uninterruptedly for a very long time. It is exactly the same policy being followed by the Trudeau regime to hang on to power by its fingernails. He hands out resident visas to Sikhs once they somehow manage to reach the Canadian shores, often on forged passports and farzi visas. Until now when backing the Sikhs in their quixotic venture has become a political imperative for the ruling Liberal Party to retain power, even if the Khalistan Movement is really a cover for the growing criminal activity of Sikh gangs engaged in extortion rackets, trafficking in drugs and women, and running prostitution rings.

Rubin argues (https://www.aei.org/op-eds/opinion-india-should-designate-canada-as-a-state-sponsor-of-terror/ ) that Trudeau “errs by confusing militancy with legitimate religion” and suggests that Ottawa ponder the conclusion of the ‘Bloom Review’ — the report of the Independent Faith Engagement Adviser appointed by the UK government 5 years ago to monitor religious extremism among the immigrant population. That Review said that  “Subversive, aggressive and sectarian actions of some pro-Khalistan activists and the subsequent negative effect on wider Sikh communities should not be tolerated.” And why the Canadian leader’s strategy of seeking protection for his otherwise legally unmaintainable Sikh policy by dragging the “Five Eyes” Intelligence sharing combine of exclusively English-speaking Anglosaxon countries (US, UK, Australia, Canada, New Zealand) into the fray, has precipitated a “crisis” with Trudeau asking the US government/CIA to validate his claims of New Delhi’s complicity in the killing of the Khalistani terrorist Hardeep Singh Nijjar last year. It has put the Biden Admin in an icky position. The “Five Eyes” members — US and UK, however, felt compelled to maintain solidarity with Trudeau and officially to wag a finger at India even though Trudeau himself confessed that what his government had by way of evidence is “intelligence information” not something that would stand up to legal scrutiny in court.

Rubin concludes: “Subjectivity, be it in the United Nations, the Financial Action Task Force, or on various country’s terror lists, undermines institutions; objectivity strengthens them. As such, India can do Canada, the United States, and Western Europe a service by designating Canada as a terror sponsor for its safe haven, if not support, for Khalistani militants. Western finger wagging does not defeat terror; financial crackdowns, arrests, and extraditions do. Ottawa and, for that matter, Washington (where President Joe Biden recently welcomed Sikh militants at the White House) may not like the limelight but as both capitals lecture others, the best way to avoid such unpleasant attention is to make substantive reform.”

Rubin followed up a few days later with an op/ed ( https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-us-must-stand-with-india-against-canada/ ) in the Washington Examiner, pointing out that “Juxtaposing the Trudeau temper tantrum toward India with Canada’s muted response toward Pakistan in the aftermath of the 2008 Mumbai bombings simply reinforces the point” and that “Nijjar openly advocated violence against his opponents and endorsed terrorism to achieve his aims. His death, even if caused by India, was no loss.” Canada, he adds, “may be America’s neighbor and second-largest trading partner, but to side with Ottawa over New Delhi would be wrong. Trudeau’s progressivism may mirror the Biden administration’s, but his erraticism should concern Washington. He puts ego above national interest”. And he advised President Joe Biden for the US not to “sacrifice its India ties to help extricate Trudeau from a hole of his own digging. Biden must cut Trudeau loose and embrace Modi. Not only truth and justice but also 21st-century security and a grave and growing terrorism threat demand it.”

[Gurpatwant Singh Pannun]

But to focus on Gurpatwant Singh Pannun — the man at the centre of India’s differences with the US. Pannun realised sometime in the mid-2000s that there was a lucrative career to be made out of being a pusher and propagandist fulltime for Khalistan in North America and Britain, because his lawyering business in the US — such as it was, was not flourishing. Accordingly, the clean-shaven Pannun grew a beard, covered his head in a patka, to conform optically to the image of a Khalistani, and began frequenting and sounding off in anti-India protests in New York (such as the one against Modi for the killing of Muslims after Godra)! But Pannun and his ilk also saw how the early Khalistan backers in America, such as Ganga Singh Dhillon, funded by the US Central Intelligence Agency, made a very good living out of remaining in the public eye and playing on the grievance-fueled sentiments of the Sikh diaporas in the US, Canada, Britain, and Australia for a Sikh homeland carved out of Indian Punjab.

But first, a bit of history.

The Khalistan movement in the West got off the ground after the twin 1984 events: Operation Blue Star — a disastrous military operation Indira Gandhi ordered to rid the country of the Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale incubus she had created out of political whole cloth to contain the Zail Singh-dominated Congress party machine in Punjab and, later that year, her assassination by her Sikh bodyguards that led to the horrific massacre of Sikhs in the congested lanes and colonies of Delhi.

It was a cause the Pakistan Army’s Inter-Services Intelligence quickly converted with large dollops of funding, operational planning, and arms training of malcontents in Indian Punjab, into a potent separatist movement that began to gain traction among the youth of certain aggrieved sections of the Jat Sikh community. (The Jat Sikhs were especially incensed, it may be recalled, with the Indira G government’s decision to reduce the Sikh strength in the army from around 5+% to some 2% to make room in it for youth from other communities.) The charismatic Bhindranwale, always accompanied by a retinue of fierce-looking bearded youngmen with bandoliers strung across their chests and carrying bolt action Enfields — verily the vanguard of the Khalsa nation as they advertised themselves, struck fear in the Punjab population and occasioned admiration among the disaffected.

Except, that Khalistan dream died a lingering death when Jarnail Singh perished in the storming of the Golden Temple by the Indian army, and the redoubtable KPS Gill, heading Punjab Police, followed up by brutally finishing off what remained of the Khalistani presence in the state, both underground and overground. He did so by recruiting young Jat Sikh men from families who had seen their fathers, older brothers and relatives serving in the military or police, retired from the services, or employed at the lower levels of the state government, being bloodily shot by the Khalistanis seeking to impose a reign of terror in the countryside, and raping their sisters and looting their homes. These select young avengers in the ranks of Punjab Police commando were afforded the licence by the redoubtable Gill to hunt down these Khalistani killers, and eliminate them “like dogs”. The terrorised Khalistanis quite literally ran for their lives to Pakistan and from there to Canada, to Britain, to America, to Australia, to wherever they could find refuge, however they could get there.

The Khalistan movement in the West today is, for the likes of Pannun, mainly a commercial enterprise. They view it as a means of earning moolah by peddling dreams, and taking over gurdwaras there and channelling contributions by the faithful into their personal accounts. Thus enriched and on easy street, Pannun, in particular, finds that turning himself into a public nuisance pays, especially when he talks bombastically of dismembering India, and starting movements in the Indian northeast and elsewhere “to Balkanise and disintegrate the Union of India” as one of his posters declared. It gains him Delhi’s attention and alerts Washington to the possibilities. And this the dangerous aspect to this Khalistan game.

The Paki ISI still sees in these Khalistani yahoos a means of discommoding India and Indian interests and presence abroad — an activity Indian intelligence has been tracking diligently. But the wave of point blank shootings of state-protected terrorists (belonging to groups like Babbar Khalsa, etc) inside Pakistan responsible for planning and carrying out terrorist acts in India, sent shivers particularly through the Khalistani ranks abroad. They had not reckoned with the toothless Amma of an Indian government suddenly sprouting fangs. After Nijjar’s killing in June last year in Surrey, British Columbia, that Canadian intel had an inkling of but couldn’t prevent, Khalistani activists and sympathizers in the West were on tenterhooks — they didn’t know what awaited them round the corner.

And then the manifestly amateurish operation to take out Pannun came to light. It was appalling to find desi Intel minders who used whatsapp for communications and tasked a freelancer to recruit a hitman. Next they’ll do what? Advertise in New York Times that India is going after X, Y and Z? With the issue going so public, the Biden Admin’s ego was engaged, and they created a brouhaha. But Washington has been placated by the stringing up of a scapegoat — a mid-level RAW officer. (The lightweight Justin Trudeau and Canada can go stew in their own pot!)

It is an axiom of spycraft that governments think of the killings of their intel agents and assets as par for the course, as long as this is done on the sly and, to use an American idiom, “the shit doesn’t hit the fan”. This is the operating principle of all self-regarding intel agencies — create no public ruckus while conducting your business. By all means, kill off your enemies but do so without getting in the host country’s face. But, Pannun and others like him who know that survival depends on the protection provided them by Western laws and governments, have an incentive to cry themselves hoarse shouting wolf, and to be as publicly vocal as possible about real and imagined threats to their life and limb from Indian agencies. It is in this light that the fiasco related to the planned operation to kill Pannun must be seen.

But this shouldn’t fool anyone into thinking that Washington (CIA), London (MI 6), Ottawa, or Canberra don’t espy profit in keeping their fingers in the Khalistani pie, and cultivating that leverage for use in future contingencies.

That said, guardrails have to be erected, especially against a friendly America. Washington has to be told firmly that if CIA feels free to kill off “undesirables” for endangering its national interest — for God’s sake, it bumped off Homi Bhabha (by blowing up his Air India flight to Geneva) to prevent India from going weapons nuclear in the mid-1960s!, no person imperilling India’s territorial integrity would be spared, whatever the cost to bilateral relations. Unfortunately, this is not the attitude of the Modi government, which has served up a RAW officer as a sacrificial offering. Given the policy tilt, this is unlikely to be a one-off concession. Jaishankar has not brought up the matter of 61 Indian extradition requests to the US government, as a pink paper reported, for terrorists/criminals such as Tahawwur Hussain Rana who planned the 2008 Mumbai strike or Goldy Brar whose gang killed the singer Sidhu Moosewala or Ramachandran Viswanathan, a money launderer, residing in the US. Washington feels free to act tough on supposed Indian lawbreakers while shielding Indian criminals in its midst wanted by Indian authorities.

A contrary attitude to dealing with the enemies of state, is Israel’s. It tolerates not a smidgeon of danger from any quarter or source, from anywhere in the world. And shrugs off pressure. The Biden Admin warned against Israelis going into Rafah. This is precisely where the IDF advanced, and Mossad tracked down and killed the Hamas chief Yahya Sinwar. It goes proactively after those who mean Israel ill. Its reputation is so fearsome and inspires so much dread everwhere, that after Indira Gandhi got cold feet in 1982 and, to her great discredit, called off at the proverbial last minute the planned Israeli air strike operation to bomb the Pakistan nuclear weapons complex at Kahuta — a mission that was to be staged out of Indian bases in Jamnagar and Udhampur, an Islamabad, frightened out of its wits, thereafter assured Tel Aviv that it would never ever be part of any effort to do Israel harm in any way, including by giving its A-bomb to the Saudis, which was rumoured to be the deal for Riyadh’s financing the Chinese transfer of nuclear weapons and missile technologies to Pakistan, and to please therefore spare Kahuta!

Actually, there is a need in India for a ‘Special Operations Executive’-type of organisation that Churchill created in wartime Britain. It has to be outside RAW, operate under deep cover, and tasked to deal with dispatch against Indians and Indian-origin foreigners who grievously harm India and its national interest, or threaten its territorial integrity, because the fast-expanding Indian disasporas the world over, could source real problems in the future.

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About Bharat Karnad

Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Centre for Policy Research, New Delhi, he was Member of the (1st) National Security Advisory Board and the Nuclear Doctrine-drafting Group, and author, among other books of, 'Nuclear Weapons and Indian Security: The Realist Foundations of Strategy', 'India's Nuclear Policy' and most recently, 'Why India is Not a Great Power (Yet)'. Educated at the University of California (undergrad and grad), he was Visiting Scholar at Princeton University, University of Pennsylvania, the Shanghai Institutes of International Studies, and Henry L. Stimson Center, Washington, DC.
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34 Responses to No Two ways to deal with Canada and terrorists (Augmented)

  1. Aditya Mishra's avatar aditya mishra says:

    Is there any part/chapter about KPS Gill crushing the Khalistanis in Punjab or Punjab insurgency in your books?

  2. Aditya Mishra's avatar aditya mishra says:

     ‘Special Operations Executive’-type of Organisation

    professor i think there is already a clandestine group in RAW called “Special Group”(formerly called 4vikas) don’t know whether they are actually serving on field and knocking out our adversaries.

  3. Aditya Mishra's avatar aditya mishra says:

    @BharatKarnad

    curious to know that why did you said a special operations group outside RAW. Why not in RAW

    is RAW not performing Upto expectations

  4. shibashishbehera049's avatar shibashishbehera049 says:

    .@BharatKarnad, professor, Is it true that R&AW is so much invested in Pakistan and Afghanistan which resulted failure to tackle global threats originating from all over the globe. Not even curtailing new type of threats especially china nowadays, which seriously an intelligence failure when comes to tackling china’s ministry of state security.

    our previously R&AW chiefs are so obsessed with Pakistan and Afghanistan, which fails to see far threats originating throughout globe like pannun case.

    My question is there any other way to tackle US and his cronies?

    like diplomatic or canceling drone deal with US (cleared recently by GOI)/ cancel ongoing Military hardware deal curtail this type of problems.

    or declaring Canada, the epicenter of terrorism to make pressure on them?

  5. Kumar's avatar Kumar says:

    sir is the MQ-9B deal to placate the Uncle Sam for the Pannun assiantion attempt..????
    uncle Same is milking from this..
    also i believe uncle sam may be behind TAPAS test failure by hacking or signal jamming..

    also after ur critical blog for step motherly attitude towards TAPAS MALE drone by IA instead of going with incremental development, IN Navy is interested in TAPAS MALE for surveillance work…
    thanks for that blogpost….

  6. Gagandeep's avatar Gagandeep says:

    Where did you read that Indira Gandhi gave a long leash to Bhindrawale to cut Zail Singh to size? It is not true. She raised Bhindranwale through Zail Singh to undercut the Akali triumvirate of Longowal-Badal-Tohra.

    Though it is a fact that once in a religious gathering Zail Singh who dyed his beard jet black, was sitting in the front row. To spite him Bhindranwale said in the mike,”We blacken somebody’s face if he has molested someone’s daughter or sister. But some Sikhs have blackened their face out of their own volition. I don’t know what they have done.”. Zail Singh kept mum (The video is available on Youtube). And it was the same Zail Singh who had saved Bhindranwale from arrest in Haryana by Bhajan Lal as well as by Darbara Singh in Punjab.

    Rest, the wounds of the 1984 massacre and thousands of innocent youth killed under the garb of eradicating terrorism are still raw. Recently a Black Cat Pinki had gone public on cruelties and extra-judicial killings they used to perpetrate.in those years. That’s why whenever a politician fans them, the people are roused again. And it is the reason why politicos like Simranjeet Singh Mann and Amritpal Singh still hold appeal in certain sections. Though efforts must be made to not let the hard fought peaceful environs of Punjab get vitiated again, but equally important is that politicians of all hue and colour must avoid creating circumstances for the movement to fester.

    • Gagandeep@ — Zail-Indira, etc was common knowledge at the time.

      • Sankar's avatar Sankar says:

        Gagandeep@ — Sure, but it is unsubstantiated at best. Did not Rajiv Gandhi publicly praise Bhindranwale and even raised him to the level of “leader” in India’s political arena? It was the Indira-Congress at the helm of power then in Delhi playing with fire.

  7. Amit's avatar Amit says:

    Professor,

    I guess India has handled this well in the sense that it has hit back hard at Canada and the US and is not backing down on its new approach to handling these issues in the US and Canada or elsewhere. What it could have done better is not get caught. Hopefully, that’s a lesson learnt.

    I think going forward Canada will be taught a lesson as India has many levers to pull on Trudeau and his government.

    But we have to wait and see how the US behaves. However, I sense a changed India. The US risks much by taking the same approach as Canada. So hopefully they will be more tactful in handling the issue.

  8. Pratik's avatar Pratik says:

    Do you think Pannun & Nijjar deserved such high priority to be assassinated, were they that a big threat unlike many deserving candidates in neighbourhood who actually supply terrorists on ground in India? Couldn’t this pannun, nijjar likes be handled diplomatically using legal systems of those host countries?

  9. Aditya Mishra's avatar aditya mishra says:

    @BharatKarnad

    professor a little bit out of topic

    but in a interview with Major Gaurav Arya you mentioned about a shocking incident in past .You said that the Chinese tested Pakistan’s nuclear devices in lop Nur in China. Then what was going on in the Chagai hills of Pakistan where Pakistan claims that they had tested N-weapon in 1998. Was all that a drama

    Like i know China proliferated strategic technologies to the pakis but never knew that they had tested Pakistan’s weapons on their land

    Never heard about this .Could you elaborate

    • aditya@ — China, in effect, tested their own designed device given to Pakistan to reassure GHQ Rawalpindi, it works — this was before the 1998 tests.

      • Aditya Mishra's avatar aditya mishra says:

        Chinese have done so much to hurt us but still GOI has done nothing. Congress or BJP all are just cowards and mindless against China

        No doubt about that

      • Aditya Mishra's avatar aditya mishra says:

        @BharatKarnad

        Professor can you please clear one thing

        when you say that existence of Pakistan is good for India it acts like a buffer against Islamic virus if it had not been separated from us we would have to invent it.

        What kind buffer aru talking about ideological or territorial you are saying that in future invasions may come from afghanistan,iran which now Pakistan will have to deal with. Or aru talking about radical islam as a ideology

      • Vikash Tiwari's avatar Vikash Tiwari says:

        Radical Islam is a great threat that has transcended borders.

        Today we have far greater number of radicalised jihadis in India than Pak and Afghan put together. And this is India’s biggest fear, often amplified by our selfish and ignorant politicians trying to score few votes.

        Looks like the half front of the 2.5 Front CDS Rawat talked about is being activated.

  10. Gagandeep's avatar Gagandeep says:

    @adityamishra @BharatKarnad there was a reason why Golden Temple was built only at Amritsar. All the nihilistic philosophy that is not even true to Islam, was entering India from there. So to counter that with a composite ethical, moral and religious philosophy and its fountainhead or say symbol Golden Temple was built there.

  11. nileshko's avatar nileshko says:

    First, we need to convey to the masses that Sikhs, like Shaivites and Vaishnavites, are a part of the Hindu fold; thus, bounded by the same mutual loyalty and social cohesion. This understanding also has to be cultivated within the Sikh elites. Lot of impulsive peasants incapable of any self-regulation, foresight and judiciousness have logged onto the current trends, and are making foolish remarks and strategic mistakes. Mistakes, which the Americans and Pakistanis will be happy to exploit; transforming our social cracks into chasms.

    Khalistanis are not a major security threat. It’s a political challenge that can be met with proper maneuvering by labelling the movement for what it is: a far-right banderite type movement, not so dissimilar from the various far-right muslim movements in India. It has to be made socially and culturally toxic. It’s the job of the agencies to ensure the wearing and flaunting of those labels, by the Khalistanis, becomes widely known.

    Canada can/will not be isolated. Canada has, what Richard Von Kuehlmann would call, a “limited sovereignty.” It is, just like the EU, a part of the American Empire.

  12. Muhammad Izadi's avatar Muhammad Izadi says:

    Greetings from across the Radcliffe line,

    “….and to please therefore spare Kahuta!….”

    Sir, what is the source of all this?

    According to Deception: Pakistan, The United States and the Global Nuclear Weapons Conspiracy, in the early 80’s, it was the US which forbade Israel from undertaking any such adventure.

    Striking silly Baathist thugs was one thing, taking on Pakistan which had/has a formidable air force was another. Washington feared, after dealing with Israeli intruders, Pakistan would surely retaliate upon Indian targets, thereby, upsetting the Afghan equation.

    As for Indira Gandhi, she had lost much of her political prowess after Sanjay Gandhi’s death. So, obviously, she refrained from foolishly risking her political capital on an operation which would’ve politically wrecked her.

    In 1998, again, there were unconfirmed reports that IDF was preparing to strike sensitive targets within Pakistan to prevent her from responding to India’s nuclear tests. Bruce Riedel, member of Clinton’s NSC back then, linked the chief of the IDF directly with the Pakistani embassy in Washington to clearly explain to Pakistani officials that no such thing was in the offing. (Source: Asymmetric Warfare in South Asia The Causes and Consequences of the Kargil Conflict, page: 134)

    None of these accounts imply that Islamabad was ever desperately trying to reach the Israelis to beg them to “spare” Pakistani nuclear installations.

    Pakistani authorities had successfully camouflaged their tracks. US surveillance satellites had failed to detect test preparations. Every aspect of the operation was smoothly executed. Nevertheless, F-16s were loaded and ready for any emergency.

    Lastly, for all the 5000-year (or whatever figure currently in use) old civilization chest-thumping, this pathetic urge to replicate the Zionist entity flies in the face of “we successfully resisted against Abrahamic faiths and cultures”.

    Where is the civilizational self-confidence? Why is there a need to emulate a Middle eastern, Abrahamic entity?

    And even after allying itself with Zionists, this Hindutva government has not been able to muster enough courage to condemn Hamas & Hezbollah by name.

    Anyhow,
    Regards

    • Izadi@ — Deception was a feed by CIA, and naturally highlighted a non-existent US role in the Indo-Israeli exercise to take out Kahuta. That operation and its aftermath were first disclosed by me after my trip to Israel during the 1982 Lebanon War and my source: Major General Aaharon Yaariv (called up for reserve duty) and billeted at the Kiryat Shimona kibbutz I was residing in. It was first written up by me for ‘The Sunday Observer’ and then detailed in my books. The late General Yaariv was Moshe Dayan’s legendary military intel chief during the Sinai Campaign and very much in on the Kahuta op. Incidentally, you may want to tap your sources in Pak army about the last such iniatitive to reassure Israel ( I know of) that was undertaken again, this time by Parvez Musharraf, when GHQ, ‘Pindi, seriously considered opening (at least quasi) diplomatic relations with Tel Aviv.

      • Muhammad Izadi's avatar Muhammad Izadi says:

        Sir, just because something comes from a highly-placed source doesn’t automatically make it closer to reality. Still, it must be assessed rationally from all angles.

        Secondly, if Deception was CIA-fed, what about all the press reports of the time which indicated that by the time Israelis struck at Osirak, Pakistan had already graduated to an advanced stage?

        Pakistan’s underground activities and networking had come on the surface through news reports.

        Why and how did Israel fail to disrupt these lines of correspondence?

        “Assurances” don’t mean anything. I am sure Israelis were smart enough to understand this.

        Once Pakistan reached a threshold with an efficient delivery system, any future government can turn hostile and threaten a transfer of technology or related material to Israel’s adversaries.

        In a nutshell, it was utterly naïve to apply Iraqi or Arab conditions on Pakistan.

        Even at the height of Taliban insurgency when our sensitive installations and airbases were under constant attack, there wasn’t a SINGLE nuclear leak or accident. Its management and security is extremely thorough.

        Lastly, as for Musharraf’s shenanigans, he was courting Jews to enhance his credentials (whatever they were) in the eyes of the Potomac bureaucrats; the same tack which our neighbors have been trying ever since they restored their relations with Israel in 1992. Neo-liberal benevolence showers on you once you acquired the offices of Zionists.

        Regards

      • Izadi@ — Actually, India’s relations with the Jewish state began with Ben Gurion’s first govt in Israel — the consulate in Mumbai, to get the Konkan Jews out to their promised land. 1992 was formalising a Delhi diplo presence.

    • Mr. A's avatar foodometry says:

      @Izadi – For a very long time CIA was not even aware of the Kahuta operation. William J Burns, the present head of CIA self admitted this in the CSA Distinguished Lecture given by Dr Karnad virtually.

      As far as contradictions go they seem quite inherent to our subcontinent , where you rightly pointed out ,Indians talk about their history of fighting Abrahamic entities but look put to Israel , an Abrahamic country or Pakistanis who stand with their Palestinian “brothers and sisters ” as part of the common Islamic “Ummah” , which flies in the face of the fact that Pakistan Army played a fundamental role in helping Jordanians massacre almost 25,000 Palestinians as part of the Black September Massacre of 1970. Even the “Zionists” could struggle to dream of doing something like this.

      Regards

      From East of the Radcliffe Line

      • Muhammad Izadi's avatar Muhammad Izadi says:

        @foodometry

        Apropos of Zia ul Haq & Pakistan Army:

        Don’t we condemn or criticize Bonapartist dirty businesses of our corrupt Generals and officers?

        Who here glorifies Zia’s conduct?

        He and his gang were themselves occupiers and an extension of British colonialism.

        Didn’t soldiers of Indian origin massacre innocent Punjabis at Jallianwala Bagh and then these units (Gurkhas and Sikhs) become patriotic Indians (& other cases Pakistanis) once their masters were forced to abandon their colonial project?

        Regards

  13. Raj's avatar Raj says:

    so why pontificate? Either we did it or we didn’t. If we did it, then there shoould a narrative that follows which isnt there. If we didn’t do it, then the government should call Canadas bluff. We seem to be the middle..we didnt do it, but if we did you’re hypocrisy is then on the table. Assasinating people who are national security threats in my book is fine but atleast be competent and dont get caught with your hand in the cookie jar. The russians were so dumb to do what they did in salisbury. Why emulate stupidity? Did we do it? Who knows..if we did the the government needs to make a narrative thats sellable whicb they havent. Cant have it both ways and theres a trial to come. Evidence will be presented and i suspect that we will have an egg on our face by the end of it.

  14. SMN's avatar SMN says:

    I am not sure if “State Sponsor of Terrorism” is correct terminology. Canada, as it appears from media reports, its the “Terrorist Sponsored State”. This Trudeau fellow can’t retain office for a day without Khalistani terrorists’ financial, political & moral support. To call Canada a “State Sponsor of Terrorism” needs great political resolve and fearless people with spine. Those who take policy decisions contemplating political and opposition backlash can’t & won’t. In situations like this, swift decision needs to be taken. We can’t first take allies into “confidence” & then announce the decision. We should be strong like Israel. Even Israel has realized today that their trust & dependence on the UN, allies & ROW has given them nothing but destruction. So now they are fighting their own battle with or without outside help. Its a good lessen for India. We have never learned from our own mistakes we made in our own backyard – Kashmir, POK, Pakistan & China. There is a idiom we learned & conveniently forgot “stitch in time saves nine”.

  15. Aditya Mishra's avatar aditya mishra says:

    @BharatKarnad

    professor is civil defense during nuclear exchange mentioned in your books/articles?

    if yes then which one?

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