‘Gandhian fantasy has destroyed India’s strategic mind’ | Dr. Bharat Karnad

[Modi at the Gandhi statue outside the Indian embassy (the building to his left) on Massachusetts Avenue, Washington DC]

A recent extended interview of mine conducted by Dr Hindol Sengupta, a professor at OP Jindal University, for his ‘Global Order’ podcast, may be of interest. It deals with a bunch of issues pertinent to current developments

An earlier interview, post-Sindoor — “India’s biggest mistake in Op Sindoor and why India must get a megaton bomb” may also be of interest at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5Bsxwn_bKc

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About Bharat Karnad

Senior Fellow in National Security Studies at the Centre for Policy Research, New Delhi, he was Member of the (1st) National Security Advisory Board and the Nuclear Doctrine-drafting Group, and author, among other books of, 'Nuclear Weapons and Indian Security: The Realist Foundations of Strategy', 'India's Nuclear Policy' and most recently, 'Why India is Not a Great Power (Yet)'. Educated at the University of California (undergrad and grad), he was Visiting Scholar at Princeton University, University of Pennsylvania, the Shanghai Institutes of International Studies, and Henry L. Stimson Center, Washington, DC.
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19 Responses to ‘Gandhian fantasy has destroyed India’s strategic mind’ | Dr. Bharat Karnad

  1. certainc620777236's avatar certainc620777236 says:

    Professor karnad ,

    with all due respect . Don’t you think that most Indian companies and smes do frugal engineering or incremental innovation and that too not very high level,rather than true fundamental innovation and the main reason which i point out is terrible research ecosystem in the country and a third grade rote education system , on the other hand if you compare it with scandanavia or Switzerland or even the usa which are open research education systems we lack a lot and even worse add to it this coaching mafia in india which has completely destroyed real innovation and critical thinking in the country. Would like to respectfully seek your opinion on it . Thanks.

  2. Aditya Mishra's avatar Aditya Mishra says:

    @BharatKarnad

    Professor karnad Sir i may sound a little bit impatient but sir how long do we have too wait for the upcoming title.

    in the middlemost section of the video you say that you have written a section in the book that is dedicated to gandhi and his roles . I’m definitely checking it out when it drops.

  3. Ranveer's avatar Ranveer says:

    professor, It is very obvious to Nietzschians and Classicist why Indians behave the way they do. it’s no surprise that people who would have collaborated with the sultanates and Chagtai later became sepoys/collaborators of British, and now carry on their work with both the American Empire and the desert.

    Indian chattering classes are mere imitators of Western concept&frameworks, whose origins and purposes they do not understand, and, therefore, get lost in the maze. They do not understand what it takes to acquire, consolidate, sustain and expand power, and the corresponding concepts& frameworks that buttress those four stages.

    American export of its concepts& frameworks buttress its empire, increase its powers, and keep other countries down. China, being in the acquisition stage of power, understands the American strategy and, therefore, eschews any of its intellectual exports– neither democracy, oligarchy, liberalism and rule of law[yers&judges], nor financialisation, baniyagiri and libertaranism.
    Chinese state is in the business of business because the purpose of business is to innovate, automate and mass produce— not the upkeep and elevation of baniya. China has an mnrega for its scientists and engineers; it funds, directs and cultivates its technological industries.

    The downside of adopting English as a national language, besides deracination and cringe imitation, is the lack of intellectual depth that it produces in its speakers, and the slavish desire to be accepted and approved by the Anglos.

    The best book on the Western philosophy is Costin Vlad Alamariu’s – Selective Breeding and the Birth of Philosophy.

    • Amit Mishra's avatar Amit Mishra says:

      Western philosphy? does it even matter in this and age?
      Interesting that criticism of gov doesn’t translate into pointing finger at the top. Destruction of Indian economy to benefit ambani, adani, tata etc was done by mo-sha.

    • Rajeev Mathur's avatar Rajeev Mathur says:

      Chinese state is in the business of business because the purpose of business is to innovate, automate and mass produce— not the upkeep and elevation of baniya mentality. China has an mnrega for its scientists and engineers; it funds, directs and cultivates its technological industries.

      Bullseye.

      Baniya mentality is the enemy. They have no knowledge of Friedrich List or how China became industrial and tech power.

  4. Shivam's avatar Shivam says:

    Intresting lobbying politics to be played in coming months in Delhi

    Russia offering Su-57 with HAL production and joint development of Su-75 checkmate for exports possibility like brahmos

    France lobbying for rafales and airforce clearance already in place

    As usutTejas and AMCA under Indian manufacturers waiting on sidelinesfor funds along with lack of interoperable datalinks , reliable encryption and large drone programme suffering

    who do you see winning professor with Putin visiting in December, Russians or french ?

  5. Kranti Kumar's avatar Kranti Kumar says:

    Mr. Karnad, you keep on singing praises of Tejas aircraft but I read a report on the Tejas crash in the Dubai air show and it mentions that the engine of Tejas is manufactured by GE company of USA so, how come Tejas is an indigenous fighter plane when it’s engine is sourced from Uncle Sam?

  6. Vivek's avatar Vivek says:

    does Tejas incident has anything to do with US remotely sabotaging GE engine used in it?

  7. Mr. A's avatar Mr. A says:

    @BharatKarnad

    Dr Karnad , Slightly off topic , but I have a borderline insane Idea. Shouldn’t India become a guarantor of Pakistan’s security like giving it India made weapons , integrating it in a India-led security forum , heck even help Pakistan in its restive FATA-KPK region through intelligence assistance . If you think about it over the last 75 odd years , the reason why all the things Pakis have done like Ceato-Sento membership , Sino – Pak Relation , Developing the Nuclear Bomb and so on , only with the singular purpose of safeguarding its existence. If India does that exact job , without any strings attached unlike the Chinese or the Americans , then the Pakis would no longer fret about their security. Hence Pakis are free to deploy their troops in the middle east or wherever else they want and India gets a peaceful neighbourhood in return . Insane idea ?

    • Actually, a great idea! And an addendum to my advocacy of focussing on China!

      • dhairya221b's avatar dhairya221b says:

        Big Daddy USA won’t let that happen, there is a reason why that Artificial Nation was created!

    • Shivam's avatar Shivam says:

      Insane is an understatement, How can you even ignore the Angle of Islam and it’s spreading to the subcontinent, who do you think funds the mosques in Kashmir or other radicalisation events . The abrhamic religions have different way of thinking than our pagan religions, they don’t follow the ideology of live and let live. Their only goal is conversion.

  8. jketh's avatar jketh says:

    I recently watched the movie House of Dynamite. After watching it, a few questions came to my mind. What is the point of investing in anti-missile systems if the success rate is so low? And on top of that, they are extremely expensive for a poor country like India it’s a gross misallocation of resources to spend on such projects. We also have a fissile and our military preparedness based on the assumption that we possess thermonuclear weapons. These delusions can be deadly and costly for us. If China ever calls our bluff, Modi will simply do sastang namaskar, and Jaishankar, I believe, will nudge him to turn India into a satellite of the US. We wont even get 18 min for our babus to think.I don’t understand this strange one-sided love our babus have toward the “goras.” They don’t seem to have any strong convictions because, as you said, their worldview is largely shaped by op-eds.
    Maybe our expectation are high from babus who cannot build roads with drainage Shri Ram has saved this country for this long

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